Notes � Nietzsche, Eternal Recurrence and the Will to Power

Greg Detre

Monday, February 05, 2001

Dr Rosen, post-Kantian IV

 

Essay title

How in your view does Nietzsche intend that we take the concepts of the will to power and the Eternal Recurrence?

What role do they play in his thought?

 

Reading list

Nehamas, 1985, �Nietzsche: life as literature� (Feiii25)

Schacht, Kaufman

John Richardson � Nietzsche�s system (Feiii67)

Robert Solomon and Kathleen Higgins (ed), 1988, �Reading Nietzsche�

Janaway � Willing + nothingness

Brian Leiter � paradox of

Zarathustra, Nachlass, BGE, TI, GS

Reading � Kaufmann, �Eternal Recurrence and the Overman�

the Eternal Recurrence + the Overman are inextricably bound together

they are not so much a metaphysical truth

but a psychological comment about progress

you could see the Overman as being defined in terms of the Eternal Recurrence

(but perhaps also in terms of the will to power)

the thing about the Eternal Recurrence is that it is supra-historical

it makes a mockery of infinite progress (= the Hegelian �Bad Infinite�)

if every moment returns, then no moment succeeds or is superior to another

the End (teleology) is not a point in time

the Overman is not Darwinian

he�s a cultural and individual apotheosis, it�s not genetic, so I spose that there is nothing barring him from birth from attaining it

humanity�s progress consists of how many and how high it�s greatest individuals there are

Nietzsche wants to be distanced from Carlyle

the Overman = he who relishes the Eternal Recurrence

he�s so in harmony with the cosmos that, like a single joy that we wish to cling to or relive, he rejoices in it all

he�s sublimated his impulses, stylised his character, integrated the chaos of his passions etc.

the value of the Overman does not consists in his usefulness

 

but Eternal Recurrence is not a Kantian Categorical Imperative!

Kant�s CI is not appealing to dispositions

= designed as a method for highlighting conflicts between maxims

Eternal Recurrence is not about moral consequences. the Overman = an overall state of a man

FW 341: on hearing about the Eternal Recurrence the first time, either the will to power is coming through you and you are filled with joy, or its uncontrolled weight turns on you and crushes you

Eternal Recurrence is not a �noble lie� � Nietzsche describes it as the most �scientific� of all hypotheses

is it scientifically realistic/justifiable???

is the universe continuous vs quantised???

what if certain configurations never repeated, i.e. a limited loop???

Simmel: 3 wheels never line up twice

like a waterfall � static/dynamic, Heraclites/Parmenides

value is measured objectively by �organised power� � WM 674

Eternal Recurrence as �transformed the symbolic into crudities�, like xxx � WM 170

Reading � Heller, �Nietzsche�s terrors: time and the inarticulate�

opens with an autobiographical note:

�What I am afraid of is not the terrifying figure behind the chair, but its voice. No, not the words, but the horrifyingly inarticulate sound of that creature. If only it spoke in the manner of human beings�

also evidence of Nietzsche father �s brain disease, Nietzsche early pathology, headaches, illness etc

contradiction, memory/repression (Proust), oblivion, language, God, nihilism: �a nihilist is a person who says of the world as it is, that it were better that it were not, and with regard to the world as it should be, that it does not and cannot exist� (WTP 585)

religion nihilism when all its fundamental assumptions are lost

Time cannot become Eternal, as in heaven

if Time was finite, it would have run out by now

Overman preceded the Eternal Recurrence � �I do not wish to live again� � notes pre-Zarathustra

Eternal Recurrence grants the �weight of eternity� to the otherwise �unbearable� and inarticulate �lightness of being� � articulation requires duration

if we don�t remember, i.e. our states of consciousness recur exactly as now, as they must, what difference?

WTP 617

Eternal Recurrence vs life as �aesthetic phenomenon�

infinite x zero = still zero

it is the �tremendous moment� that matters???

Eternal Recurrence = supreme epic philosophy???

it most pious of those who do not believe in God???

attack notion of progress, cf Hegel: what comes after is not necessarily better

Reading - Tanner, Nietzsche reader, �One thing needful�

style as the �one thing needful� � parody of Wagner �overriding need� � aesthetising life

vs pity � moral = �to lose one�s way in order to come to the assistance of a neighbour� (GS 338)

�live in seclusion so that you can live for yourself�

he doesn�t condemn the herd men for lacking the capacity needed for style � he is simply uninterested in them (pg 44)

how would Nietzsche have viewed Goering and other vicious, �bestial� stylised characters??? (Nehamas)

no, they�d be weeded out by the Eternal Recurrence

OR, they�d fail on the basis of the neuroses that drove them to violence

or am I refusing to believe what I don�t want to???

Reading � Tanner, Nietzsche reader, �Occupying the higher ground�

discusses his rejection by Lou Salome and how it influenced TSZ � with which he could be seen as purging himself

Eternal Recurrence, will to power etc hardly appear afterwards! (???)

inventing value, wanting untruth! so unplatonic

 

Reading � who, �The discovery of the will to power�

Reading � Routledge, Nietzsche

Will to power

Nietzsche doing what he attacks other philosophers for � creating a system in his own image

the will to power is elevated from a human drive to the ultimate

Eternal Recurrence

counter-ascetic ideal

still requires fleshing out with values etc.

the revaluation of value then becomes the business of seeing value in terms of the Eternal Recurrence

 

Discarded

This combined with reports of terrible headaches, extreme myopia and his father�s fatal brain disease point o

 

Structure

different ways of seeing the Eternal Recurrence

noble lie � if people believe it, they will act a certain way

metaphysical truth

incoherent notion

 

Quotes from primary texts

The victorious concept "force," by means of which our physicists have created God and the world, still needs to be completed: an inner will must be ascribed to it, which I designate as "will to power," i.e., as an insatiable desire to manifest power; or as the employment and exercise of power, as a creative drive, etc. Physicists cannot eradicate "action at a distance" from their principles; nor can they eradicate a repellent force (or an attracting one). There is nothing for it: one is obliged to understand all motion, all "appearances," all "laws," only as symptoms of an inner event and to employ man as an analogy to this end. In the case of an animal, it is possible to trace all its drives to the will to power; likewise all the functions of organic life to this one source. � WP 619

What, if some day or night a demon were to steal after you in your loneliest loneliness and say to you: "This life as you now live it and have lived it, you will have to live once more and innumerable times more; and there will be nothing new in it, but every pain and every joy and every thought and sigh and everything unutterably small or great in your life will have to return to you, all in the same succession and sequence�even this spider and this moonlight between the trees, and even this moment and I myself. The eternal hourglass of existence is turned upside down again and again, and you with it, speck of dust! Would you not throw yourself down and gnash your teeth and curse the demon who spoke thus? Or have you once experienced a tremendous moment when you would have answered him: "You are a god and never have I heard anything more divine." If this thought gained possession of you, it would change you as you are or perhaps crush you. The question in each and every thing, "Do you desire this once more, and innumerable times more?" would lie upon your actions as the greatest weight. Or how well disposed would you have to become to yourself and to life to crave nothing more fervently than this ultimate eternal confirmation and seal? (GS 341)

Quotes from secondarytexts

He identifies this �basic conception� not as a cosmology, but as �the highest
formula for affirmation that is at all attainable� (Ecce Homo III �1 [Werke
VI.3: 335]).

Eternal recurrence gives him a formula for what it is to value the process of life as an
end and not merely as a means.

 

 

Quotes

 

Points

is the will to power idealism??? it consists of a sort of anthopomorphic, fundamentally life-orientated force, drive and energy, that coheres in living, especially intellectual, beings

it is more though than simply ideas, it�s much more the agent part. it�s more than just a metaphysical medium like matter, it�s more like a law of nature � it is nature

how much of Nietzsche is pertinent to all philosophers of the future, and how much is he simply being one in a long line himself???

Questions

is the desire for oblivion, then, the Underman�s craving???

some of the concepts in Nietzsche seem to be a bewildering collection of statements that you just learn to associate with each other � is this understanding???

is the Eternal Recurrence scientific???

is this a �metaphysical consolation� though???

is the world at root suffering or joy???

when Nietzsche there has not yet been an Overman in this Eternal Recurrence cycle???

how is the Overman a sort of ascetic ideal itself (Routledge) ???

why is God �dead� � is it to indicate that he was a human construct/pet, and we have finally tired of his games???

is the will to power not an underlying reality, a metaphysics, a second world???

is the Overman different to the philosopher of the future/free spirit???